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US Government sources in general should not be trusted in my opinion. The scientific basis and independence of all agencies of that government have been seriously eroded and should therefore never be taken at face value without verification from trustworthy sources.


Where I live, here in Germany, it’s unusual for children younger than one to go to any kind of day care. Starting at around age one I’d estimate that around one third of children go to day care. By age three virtually all children go to Kindergarten. In my home country, the Netherlands, it’s much more common for children younger than one to go to day care.

What I find baffling though is that this German system is that it’s fully geared towards mothers staying at home for very long periods of time. Not only does this not make sense on a macroeconomic level, but it also deprives people of social interactions that don’t stem from being a parent, at least in my opinion.

Well, at least our day care is dirt cheap here, coming in at 280 € per month per child for five days a week between 7 am and 4 pm.


I share your opinion. Unfortunately the weird method that takes weeks and moves at a snail’s pace isn’t optional here at our day care. Speaking from experience with our first child: it would have been absolutely fine to leave her there for the entire day much, much earlier, since she really enjoyed going from the first day.


How did you get your children to go to day care?
Where I live, Germany, it is very common to spend weeks, sometimes even months, trying to slowly get a child used to going to day care. In my home country, the Netherlands, this wasn't really a thing when I was younger and, from what I've learned from people with young children there, isn't common even today. That got me thinking. Are there many differences between countries when it comes to day care and specifically getting your children to go to day care in the first place? We're currently getting our second child used to day care. For our first child the entire process took six weeks and represented the Idea trajectory - nobody was ill, she liked going there, she liked eating there and she didn't make a fuss when it was time to sleep there. Still, this represents a significant investment of time (and therefore money) for any working parent. Sometimes it seems really absurd and impractical. I get the impression that the entire day care system in Germany revolves around the idea that mothers don't work or, if they do, it's only ever part time. How does this look like in other countries? I've linked an article (in German, but translation services are available) about the system we're stuck with here, if anyone wants to dive deeper.
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Is this a specifically US problem? As a Dutchman I can attest to the fact that kids are biking just as much now than they were during my own childhood, probably even more (and much more safely).


While I agree that the prevalence of digital media and the internet is a new phenomenon that requires new Ideas and approaches for parenting, I disagree with the idea that mankind is currently faced with a particularly different world state. While, at least for many people in the place we used to refer to as “the West” life was probably cosier in the 90s or even the 2000s, that is certainly not the case for people in other regions. Additionally I don’t think there has ever been a time when things were “good” in the first place. I was born into a world where nuclear annihilation and MAD was ingrained into society. It felt like an inevitable fact that at some point mankind would face nuclear annihilation and yet people were still able to have families, raise children and enjoy the little things.


Depending on the age and number of children being a stay at home parent is often more stressful than working a full time job. The draining part is that you can never switch off. No coffee break, no lunch break, not even bathroom breaks if you’re taking care of a baby or needy toddler.


As mentioned, libraries are awesome. I recommend making a habit out of regularly going to the library with your children, even if they can’t read yet. At our library they have a large selection of children’s books that are meant to be read to children rather than read by them. Start with these and make reading a normal part of your day. When your child asks you to read to them, try to make that possible. This might implant the habit of reading in your children.


I feel this. Our daughter regularly takes off her socks just when we tell her it’s time to put her shoes on. Sometimes it costs more energy to get her to the day care and at the same time make sure that her little brother doesn’t have a meltdown at the same time than the entire work day after that.


If I may ask: which two languages do you speak alongside English? Does your child understand (and perhaps already speak) all three?


With some jurisdictions categorically recommending that children under a certain age (in the case of Denmark under 13) should not have a tablet or smartphone, what is your opinion on the appropriate age/way to introduce these devices to your children's life? Do you use your own devices together with your children? If so, how and when? While my own children are still unquestionably too young for tablets or smartphones, I'm already afraid of the social pressure that is likely to arise at an ever younger age when their friends start getting devices.
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We had a minor breakthrough after reading a book about emotions in children with our daughter. In a very playful and colourful way the book explains how minor annoyances for small children can have a runaway effect. Unfortunately the book “Mia und die Motzmöhre” (lit. Mia and the sulking carrot) is only available in German. I’m sure there must be similar works in other languages as well and it’s perhaps worth a try - what’s the worst that could happen?

Every time our daughter now starts spiralling we ask her if she has a sulking carrot. That takes her out of the spiral surprisingly often.

Anywho: happy mother’s day!


Ah, I understand. There’s also versions of this type of car with a battery and a small electric motor that allow the child to “drive” at roughly the speed a grown up person would walk.



My children have two nationalities - luckily both of them are EU nationalities. However, since we live in the home country of my wife, my children have little to nothing in terms of contact with their second nationality of my home country. Both passports for them are largely interchangeable in terms of power and freedom of travel. My children also will never need to decide whether to give up either nationality, making it easier for them to just have a "passive nationality" in the back pocket. Do your children also have more than one nationality? How does this impact your and their life? How do you manage to retain ties with both countries - if at all? I'd love to hear different perspectives on this topic.
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My daughter is currently at the phase where she is starting to play with others instead of only next to others. It took her over a year to steadily get there. Some children are shy, others are outgoing. My recommendation is to not be discouraged if there is little or no interaction between the children - that will come eventually.



Thanks for sharing! It’s interesting to get the perspective from a non-heterosexual couple. We should really try to share our experience as a “regular” married couple with friends of ours who also have two children but happen to be two mothers.


Awesome! Which tool(s) do you use for the family calendar and task sharing?


Give daycare, pediatrics, classmates parents, and family and friends your contact info and instruct them to call you first

Where I live (Germany), many organisations seem afraid to call the father, even if specifically instructed to do so in my experience. Our day care for example never hesitated to call my wife for every little last thing when they knew she was on parental leave. When they knew that she was working full time again and I was on parental leave the day care seemed reluctant to call me. Even when they did, they apparently had a mental block that meant they would communicate very differently with me than with my wife. It almost feels like a man’s time is usually respected while a woman’s time is regarded as “free”, so she can pick up the kids anytime anywhere at the drop of a hat.

Make sure you know your child’s SSN, birthday, allergies

We found that keeping a shared cloud storage for things like mail from the various bureaucratic institutions we need to deal with as parents has been very helpful. Everything is available at any time without having to spend half an hour searching for the right piece of paper.

Keep a family calendar where you can see appointments

We use a google family calendar, which works like a charm. We’re trying to limit the exposure to google and similar evil tech companies recently. Do you know of a good alternative to the family calendar that doesn’t consist of just inviting each other to dozens of events?


Thanks for the insight! We talk a lot and I would hope we still manage to share a bunch of the load by taking charge of particular aspects. For instance, just like you described, my wife is in touch with other mothers and is therefore much deeper into clothes thanks to clothes sharing. Meanwhile I try to keep track of always having an adequate supply of food for the children. Still, I feel like it’s been drifting more into her direction lately, which we want to rectify.


How do you manage the mental load in a partnership as parents?
Before we became parents the concept of "Mental Load" was largely theoretical as both of us were easily able to manage the everyday logistics of our own lives. With children coming into the equation everything suddenly becomes a juggling exercise - at least that was our experience. I've read in several publications that the mental load or, to use a different wording, the organisation of everyday logistics is often predominantly done by women/mothers. We try to share all tasks as evenly as possible. We both work approximately the same amount of time. We both earn similar wages. We share costs on a 50:50 basis. We both took the exact same amount of parental leave. However, the logistics of everyday life have, without even trying to aim for that, drifted more towards my wife. How do you go about sharing this task? What kind of technical/IT solutions do you use to remain on the same page? Is it even necessary to share this task or are there others ways to "specialise" in certain areas of being a parent?
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Probably true. Luckily my son hasn’t yet gotten to that age, but he certainly will, sooner rather than later…


Thanks! This sounds interesting and I’ll look into it.

Concerning parental controls I share your doubts. While you may be able to have some form of limited control over the device used by the child, there is no control whatsoever over the type of content shared by peers. It just seems difficult to make sure that my children already have the necessary skill set of critical thinking at a very young age. I know for a fact that I didn’t have that skill at the age of 6 or 10. Luckily I only ever got my first mobile phone, a good ol’ Nokia brick, at the age of 16.


This article really struck a chord with me, since I'm increasingly worried about my children growing up in a world that is fundamentally different from the one I grew up in. It's incredibly hard to make sure that children are not confronted with disturbing imagery and all the propaganda that is circulating online without the fully developed critical thinking of an educated adult. How do you go about making sure your children become responsible adults online?
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